Friday, September 26, 2008

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Hey guys, I hope you all are enjoying Caesar as much as I am. Below is a posting for you to comment on...

Literary critic T.S. Dorsch said that Caesar makes "such extravagant expressions of arrogance that all sympathy for him is alienated, and the action of the assassins is for the moment almost accepted as justifiable."

What do you think?

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

in a way i agree with them because of all the signs Caesar had and all the warnings. so i think he was beong very arrogant in that matter but he still wass a man of the people i mean sure he wanted the crown really bad but the people didn't want a monarchy so he didn't take the crown (this could be to stay on there good side untill he had a son but we'll never know). since he didn't take i think he still for the people and wasn't going to be corupt so it wasn't really justible but it was somewhat Caesar's fault if that makes since

Dustin Shelton

Anonymous said...

I don't think he was arrogant, because he wanted a crown really bad and three times he refused it. Knowing that his country didn't want one. Towards the people of his country I don't think he was arrogant at all. Then with all the warnings he was finally going to not go until one of the people agaisnt swithched her dream to make it a good thing. But that was Caesar's choice and definetly not arrogance.

Sheena Lewis

Anonymous said...

I agree with Dustin and Sheena. Yes, he was somewhat arrogant in the fact that he thought nothing would happen to him, almost as if to be invincible, even with all the warnings. But on the other hand, he did refuse the crown three times even though he wanted it very badly! So I do think that it was best for the people that he was killed, but not fair to Caesar, who was a loved and respected man, or to his wife, Calphurnia, and friends.

Payton Tipton

Anonymous said...

I agree and disagree with Dustin and Sheena. He did have all the signs but nobody wants to think that it is actually going to happen that is why he called for an army just incase. He also refused the crowd because thats what the people wanted him to do, otherwise he would have glady taken it.

Ariana Dorr
ps I love this version of over the rainbow!!

Anonymous said...

I personally think that Caesar was very arrogant, but he had reasons to be so. However I think he should have acted more humble and also should have taken precaution when signs started showing that he was in danger. I don't understand why the critic T.S. Dorsch said that sympathy for Caesar was alienated, because he may have been arrogant and ambitious but he didn't accept the crown even though it was offered to him three times and also in his will he included his people. I think ambition and arrogance were flaws in Caesar but I think deep down he was very caring for the people. However his flaws were unfortunately fatal.

Alexa Bancroft

Anonymous said...

I agree with what Sheena is talking about. Sure he could have listened to the other people and accepted their warnings, but one it is his decision to listen or disregard other peoples thoughts, and two he is the ruler of Rome so I would think I know everything also if I was him. Of course, it came down to him dying and that was his own fault for not listening to them, but if they were wrong then he would have been smart to trust his own judgment.

Ben Kimball

Anonymous said...

I agree that Caesar was arrogant, but i do not think he took it too far. He turned down the crown three times that he so badly wanted because he knew it was what the people wanted. Also the people close to you know the most about you and will often turn against you if you appear arrogant or in any way harmful to the people around you. Yet Anthony ,his closest firend, and his wife both wanted him to live and grieved his death and once he was gone Anthony only said good things about him.

Taylor Crumbley

Anonymous said...

I know that Ceasar really did what the people wanted him to do, but what if the people wanted him to take the crown. If he did and abused his power, would he have given it up. I personally don't know, what Ceasar would or would not have done, but based on other examples in history people that start out good eventually let absolute power corrupt them and Ceasar might have been another example.

Adam Spivey

Anonymous said...

I think Caesar was very arrogant, I'm not saying it in a bad way because sometimes we all are but I think he was to arrogant, which led to his downfall. He was to into himself and having power but not enough where he would have taken the crown. He loved the people and didn't want to make them mad by taking it so he at least cared, but Brutus knew it would be better if Caesar was dead which in my opinion I think it was good he killed him because with all the power you have soon enough you'll do something stupid and in Casers situation it would be taking the crown.

Levi Long

Anonymous said...

In a way, Caesar was arrogant because he had so many warnings of what was going to happen to him, but he ignored them. On the other hand, he did refuse the crown three times even though he wanted it extremely bad! So it's kind of a half and half thing.

Esha Rock

Anonymous said...

I agree with Sheena, and I disagree with Dorsch in that Caesar was so arrogant that all sympathy for his death was lost. He did ignore the warnings that were given to him, but Caesar almost stayed home because of Calphurnia's dream. Once Decius mentioned that the Senate was going to give him the crown, he decided to go. His flaw was not arrogance but lust for the crown.
Kent Connell

Anonymous said...

I definitely agree with Esha. He really really really wanted the crown and refused it 3 times. That shows you something about what kind of person he was. But he was arrogant in that he wanted power and thought he was most deserving of it.

Brooke Miller

Anonymous said...

I think Caesar was a very complex person and I think it would not do his character justice to call him arrogant without showing examples for both. He was a normal person so he was power hungry like every ruler but he put his own passions aside to make the right decision for his country. I think Caesar could have been a great ruler so i think they should have trusted him after he pushed away the crown and not killed him.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Caesar was arrogant because he had so many different warnings from diferent people and he didnt listen to one of them! But on the other hand he did refuse the crown three times because he knew that the people werent ready for him yet. So it ultimatly could go either way.

Meryn Evans

Anonymous said...

I totally agree and i think that he was acting very aggorgant. He recieved many warnings and omens and he didnt listen to anyone. Even when the ghost told him that he would see him soon, he didnt think anything of it. Even when other people tried to tell him that they had a bad feeling about the time, he STILL didnt listen. I dont mean to sound rude, but i think that it was his fault and him being indirectly led to his death.

Bethany McIntosh

nataliya said...

I think its a bit harsh.. He was arragent and turned a blind eye to all the signs, but to say that the conspiriters were actually almost justified is really just absured. Would you have turned a blind eye? I think i would have given the situation. He thought he could trust them, and they turned out to be really just bad people. I also agree with Sheena on the part where she said he wasn't arrogant toward his people. He truly cared for them and wanted what is best for them, and therefore refused something he wanted so badly. He also left them each something in the will! That just goes to show that he cared for his people, and i think they returned the favor in the end.

Nataliya Migovich

Anonymous said...

To say Caesar is inclined to 'extravagant expressions of arrogance' is not necessarily true, though it might be easy to think otherwise. It is true that he ignores the warning signs that should have hinted to him of his eminent demise, but the reason for this is not necessarily arrogance. Perhaps he was only lacking in superstition, and so saw no reason to heed the seemingly-insignificant words of an unfamiliar soothsayer. Meanwhile, when it comes to those who could be more substantial threats to his position, the play shows him to be duly wary, and not one to disregard such people easily. Of course, he does make some mistakes on his way to his untimely end, but is it really so uncommon for someone who has finally attained his or her goals to become careless, caught up in the excitement of that victory? Perhaps he should have paid more mind to the whispers in his ears that would have alerted him to the devious plot, but even the greatest have been known to let their guard down when they believe their time of glory--their hour of sweet triumph, that which they have worked so hard to reach--is finally at hand.

Also, to say that his murderers had the support of the populace would not be entirely correct. The masses thrive on the sweet words given to them by their various leaders, and are quickly swayed from one side to the other. How easily their loyalty for Caesar was destroyed, with but a few simple words! Give them the spectacle which they desire, move them emotionally, and it would serve as the most desirous currency to buy their undying fidelity--at least until the next crafty speaker comes along. The masses live in the moment, and care not for such trivialities as right or wrong.


Priscilla Han