Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Poetry Response



Read the poem below by Wilfred Owen. Respond to it in some way and then make a connection between this poem and All Quiet.

DULCE ET DECORUM EST by Wilfred Owen

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

8 October 1917 - March, 1918

If you liked this poem, search out other WWI poetry. Wilfred Owen, Siegfried Sassoon, Rupert Brook are all good places to start. Poetry from this era is very interesting and realistic.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Even though this poem is graphic, it is a good way to see exactly what World War I soldiers went through. We all know that war is bad, and that it can have some bad effects on people. However, your whole perspective changes when you read a book like All Quiet on the Western Front. In this book, we see the war through the eyes of Paul. We read about the deaths he wittnesses and the emotional battles he deals with. It changes your whole outlook on things, and and it gives you a new respect for the soldiers who risk their lives every day just like Paul and his friends.

Gabby Earby

Anonymous said...

I agree with gabby saying that even though it is graphic, its kinda a good thing. If nobody told what it was really like, then we would never know what it was actually like and what really happened. This is very well illustrated in All Queit on the Western Front. At times this book was almost unbearable, but i think that this is important.
Bethany McIntosh

Anonymous said...

I'll have to agree with Gabby about this poem. It leaves no details out. These men fought and died for their country, which I think is amazing because I don't know if I could risk my life for people I didn't even know or for something that could easily be settled with a good talk and a cup of coffee. In All Quiet, we get to learn about many of the events that took place during WWI. I think in a way all of us can relate to Paul. In one way, most people probably have some kind of emotional hesitation about death. We often try to forget deaths or occupy ourselves with other activities to keep our minds away from death. Paul and his company endured so many deaths of soldiers they knew and had become friends with. I am so thankful for the soldiers fighting in Iraq for us, but in a way I wish we could all just be friends or aquaintances at the least.

Jenna Stewart

Anonymous said...

I agree with Gabby. This poem is basically a summary of All Quiet on the Western Front. Before I read the book, All Quiet on the Western Front, I knew that wars were bloody and horrible. After I read the book I saw that it was more than that. Some examples are, it was hard for the men to stay sane and stay away from home so long that when they went back they felt that the war is where their home is. Also seeing their friends die right in front of them is a very disturbing way. Seeing the war through Paul's eyes and listening to his thoughts helped me through the process of understanding the war and what they had to go through. Reading this book gave me, gabby, and other people the respect that soldiers should get every day risking their lives for their country, family, and friends.

Katelyn McChesney

A. Davis said...

Katelyn, you (and the others) keep talking about seeing the war through Paul's eyes and the fact that it made you see things differently. So do you all think the novel would have had the same effect if written in 3rd person instead of 1st? Also, do you think having the epilogue in there written in 3rd omniscient (as it had to be, since Paul was dead) makes any sort of statement? Would you have ended the book in that way?

Anonymous said...

Mrs. Davis, i think that even if the book was in 3rd person it would still show how bad war is but i dont think it would be as powerful and moving as it being in 1st, if it was in 3rd you wouldnt be able to focus on one person and see how the war has changed them completely, in 1st person you get to see him transition from the start to finish and how everything changed for him. With the poem i think Gabby is right that World War 1 was a bad thing but it is good that we see what they went through and see how it was for them.

Levi Long

Anonymous said...

Wow. Poems like this just make you cringe but at the same time give you an amazing look at what the war was really like. I agree with Levi in that while reading All Quiet on the Western Front I felt so into the book with it being in 1st person. You want to know what's going to happen to Paul and his comrades. You've become so attached to them, almost as if they're your friends too. I feel like even in 3rd person you would learn to really dislike the war, reading about all the terrible things that go on.

Brooke Miller

Anonymous said...

I personally dont think the book would of been as effective if it was written in third person. Because in first person you can really relate to paul, you know exactly how he feels and it seems really genuine. But in 3rd person I think using he or she wouldnt effect us as much, and not focusing on one character. But it would give us a different view but not as different a view as putting it in first person. And I also think putting the epilogue written in 3rd person really made a big closing statement on the whole story.

Sheena Lewis

A. Davis said...

Glad to hear that you guys had a reaction to one of my favorite poems!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Levi. The book shows that no matter if it is in first or third that war is horrible. In first person we get to hear the thoughts and kinda believe that you are there with him. However if it was written in third person it probably wouldn't have taken as much as an effect but still an effect. I kinda liked how it ended. I liked it because Paul died peacefully and not painfully. However I wished he had got to live and start his life basically from scratch. I probably would have read that book. I want to see how soldiers back then had to try and control their feelings.

Katelyn McChesney

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that even though both first and third person get the point across, first person seems to have a lot more weight to it.

Allow me to elaborate:

When you read something in third person, you're following the character/characters around.
When something bad happens, you think, "Wow, that's so terrible for them."

But when literature is in first person, It puts you into this character's mind and body.
That furthers the feeling of when a loss is had, you feel like you yourself lost something.

Writing in general is good in either perspective, but when you're going to describe something that effects people emotionally, it should be in first person.

William Nicholas

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed the poem. It gives the same view as All Quiet on the Western Front did because it was graphic. This makes you understand how stressful it was in war. I agree with Sheena, I believe, since it was in first person, that it was more effactive then being in third. Third person doesn't give you as close of a relationship as can first person.

Ariana Dorr